I sent the following to Adriane on May 11, 2016 12:16:06:
Soooooo ... Would you want to come with me?
Adriane sent the following to me on May 11, 2016 12:16:18:
Yes!! ��
I sent the following to Adriane on May 11, 2016 12:16:43:
Awesome. I'll check to see if it's too late.
Adriane sent the following to me on May 11, 2016 12:16:58:
Lol, okay!
I sent the following to Adriane on May 11, 2016 12:17:42:
So, I guess that I'll see you tomorrow for a bit, but not too long. Then, after your exam on Friday, you're mine until Monday!
Adriane sent the following to me on May 11, 2016 12:18:04:
Yeah!! ����
I sent the following to Adriane on May 11, 2016 12:18:19:
Awesome sauce.
Adriane sent the following to me on May 11, 2016 12:23:30:
Did they say it was okay?
I sent the following to Adriane on May 11, 2016 12:32:25:
Yes. Just got off the phone with my dad.
Adriane sent the following to me on May 11, 2016 12:33:11:
Yay!! ��
I sent the following to Adriane on May 11, 2016 12:33:33:
Lilia is coming too!
Adriane sent the following to me on May 11, 2016 12:35:10:
That's awesome!! I can't wait to meet her!! It's your Dad's side of the family that's all coming?
I sent the following to Adriane on May 11, 2016 12:35:21:
So, how long will I get to see you tomorrow?
I sent the following to Adriane on May 11, 2016 12:35:24:
Yes.
Adriane sent the following to me on May 11, 2016 12:36:39:
Okay cool. I feel like that's a little less pressure than your mom's side.
We can hangout until 3pm! ��
I sent the following to Adriane on May 11, 2016 12:39:53:
Sweet. It cuts some of what I had planned, but that'll work.
Adriane sent the following to me on May 11, 2016 13:03:25:
�� I can't wait to see you!
I kind of wish I was in shape for the float trip! Is your family conservative? My bikini is not very conservative!
I sent the following to Adriane on May 11, 2016 13:03:44:
They aren't conservative at all.
I sent the following to Adriane on May 11, 2016 13:05:16:
It's true though: the most important thing to them will be the way you look.
Adriane sent the following to me on May 11, 2016 13:06:17:
Lol, really?
I sent the following to Adriane on May 11, 2016 13:06:43:
Yeah. If you're not hot enough, they'll make me break up with you.
Adriane sent the following to me on May 11, 2016 13:07:01:
Lol! I knew it.
Adriane sent the following to me on May 11, 2016 13:07:48:
Well I guess I'm going to have to take some laxatives and get plastic surgery before Saturday!
I sent the following to Adriane on May 11, 2016 13:08:10:
Before Friday, actually. And yeah, please do.
I sent the following to Adriane on May 11, 2016 13:09:03:
We can go together. I need to get my nose touched up.
Adriane sent the following to me on May 11, 2016 13:09:16:
Omg! lol
I sent the following to Adriane on May 11, 2016 13:10:56:
We should take before pictures though. And you should be naked. This is for pure science of course.
Adriane sent the following to me on May 11, 2016 13:11:20:
Well I'm still a little nervous to meet them, but I'm sure it won't be a complete disaster!
I sent the following to Adriane on May 11, 2016 13:11:32:
It won't be.
I sent the following to Adriane on May 11, 2016 13:51:58:
I wish that I were in a tent with you enjoying this storm.
Adriane sent the following to me on May 11, 2016 13:53:58:
�� I just walked through it to get to school and thought of you!!
I sent the following to Adriane on May 11, 2016 13:55:57:
Maybe we'll get one on Friday night.
Adriane sent the following to me on May 11, 2016 15:45:56:
That would be cool!! Do you have a tent?
I sent the following to Adriane on May 11, 2016 15:46:57:
Yup. We'll be using it this weekend. We'll get all cuddled in there. It's going to be great.
Adriane sent the following to me on May 11, 2016 15:47:10:
What will our sleeping arrangements be like? I do not have a sleeping bag!
I sent the following to Adriane on May 11, 2016 15:48:15:
You'll have to sleep in a separate tent and then sneak in one everyone is asleep. We can make sure that we have enough bedding for that.
Adriane sent the following to me on May 11, 2016 15:48:55:
Does your tent have a clear top so we can see the stars?
Adriane sent the following to me on May 11, 2016 15:48:58:
Really?!
Adriane sent the following to me on May 11, 2016 15:49:10:
I don't have a tent!
Adriane sent the following to me on May 11, 2016 15:49:19:
Lol
Adriane sent the following to me on May 11, 2016 15:49:24:
I'm so unprepared!
I sent the following to Adriane on May 11, 2016 15:49:27:
It doesn't. And, no, not really. My parents don't care.
I sent the following to Adriane on May 11, 2016 15:49:52:
I slept in a tent with my highschool girlfriend.
I sent the following to Adriane on May 11, 2016 15:50:09:
No big deal at all.
I sent the following to Adriane on May 11, 2016 15:50:32:
If the weather allows it, we can sleep outside the tent.
Adriane sent the following to me on May 11, 2016 15:53:58:
What if a bear comes?
I sent the following to Adriane on May 11, 2016 15:54:08:
I'll fight it off.
Adriane sent the following to me on May 11, 2016 15:57:51:
Okay, I'll eat popcorn and call people over to watch!!
I sent the following to Adriane on May 11, 2016 15:58:24:
It is exhausting though, so I'd prefer not to.
Adriane sent the following to me on May 11, 2016 15:58:52:
Then what would you do?
I sent the following to Adriane on May 11, 2016 15:59:28:
I mean, I'll fight the bear off if a bear comes, but don't like summon it or anything.
Adriane sent the following to me on May 11, 2016 16:00:09:
Ohh! Haha, okay, I won't bring my Bear Attractant!
I sent the following to Adriane on May 11, 2016 16:01:03:
Thanks. You realize that I'll see you in 17 hours right?
Adriane sent the following to me on May 11, 2016 16:03:22:
Oh my goodness. <24 hours!
Adriane sent the following to me on May 11, 2016 16:20:16:
I told my mom about the trip and right away she started telling me that I should wear a one piece and make sure I cover up since it's in front of your family!
Adriane sent the following to me on May 11, 2016 16:20:17:
I told my mom about the trip and right away she started telling me that I should wear a one piece and make sure I cover up since it's in front of your family!
I sent the following to Adriane on May 11, 2016 16:20:46:
Haha. No way.
I sent the following to Adriane on May 11, 2016 16:21:39:
Your mom is going to hate me. Damnit.
Adriane sent the following to me on May 11, 2016 16:21:52:
I wouldn't do that unless that's how your family dressed. I don't want to look weird!!
Adriane sent the following to me on May 11, 2016 16:21:59:
Why would she hate you?
I sent the following to Adriane on May 11, 2016 16:22:34:
Bringing you on a family trip, encouraging you to wear a bikini, sleep in my tent, etc.
Adriane sent the following to me on May 11, 2016 16:23:38:
Oh, lol no she doesn't care about that. She just wants me to be respectful and not showing off too much. But I don't think it's an issue
Adriane sent the following to me on May 11, 2016 16:26:06:
I didn't tell her that I'm sleeping in your tent, but she's actually not a prude she she knows I have sex! lol
I sent the following to Adriane on May 11, 2016 16:27:50:
Good.
I sent the following to Adriane on May 11, 2016 16:28:37:
Because if you pay your cards right, I might have sex with you ��
Adriane sent the following to me on May 11, 2016 16:30:34:
She is so honest even when it's uncomfortable if it's something she thinks is important. When she first suspected I was having sex she took me to Planned Parenthood to get birth control. And I remember she told me to make sure he doesn't try to put it in my butt! lol
I sent the following to Adriane on May 11, 2016 16:31:07:
Haha.
Adriane sent the following to me on May 11, 2016 16:32:22:
I was thinking about that!
Adriane sent the following to me on May 11, 2016 16:32:47:
If our tent is near everybody else's we can't do that or they'll hear it!!
I sent the following to Adriane on May 11, 2016 16:33:14:
It'll be fine. We can find a spot that isn't near by.
Adriane sent the following to me on May 11, 2016 16:33:46:
However if we put our tent far away from everybody else's they're gonna be like, "Ohh, they want to be alone..."
I sent the following to Adriane on May 11, 2016 16:34:16:
They know we're having sex. Like, they aren't stupid.
Adriane sent the following to me on May 11, 2016 16:38:44:
Yeah, but it's a family trip so I don't know how they feel about that. But it's your family, so I trust you to let me know what you guys think is appropriate!!
Adriane sent the following to me on May 11, 2016 16:38:45:
Yeah, but it's a family trip so I don't know how they feel about that. But it's your family, so I trust you to let me know what you guys think is appropriate!!
I sent the following to Adriane on May 11, 2016 16:41:49:
It'll be fine.
Adriane sent the following to me on May 11, 2016 16:44:22:
I want to hear embarrassing stories about you! ��
I sent the following to Adriane on May 11, 2016 16:44:38:
Damnit. OK ....
Adriane sent the following to me on May 11, 2016 16:45:11:
Who all is gonna be there?
I sent the following to Adriane on May 11, 2016 16:45:55:
My dad, step mom, step sister, her daughter, step brother, his partner, her two kids, you and I
I sent the following to Adriane on May 11, 2016 16:46:07:
And Jesus
I sent the following to Adriane on May 11, 2016 16:46:19:
Just kidding ... No Jesus that I know of.
Adriane sent the following to me on May 11, 2016 16:48:17:
Nice! That's a good group of people!
Adriane sent the following to me on May 11, 2016 16:55:50:
Are you going to drink?
Adriane sent the following to me on May 11, 2016 16:56:12:
The last float trip I went on everybody was drinking!
I sent the following to Adriane on May 11, 2016 16:56:35:
Doubtful that I'll drink. I'd be more likely to smoke weed with my family.
Adriane sent the following to me on May 11, 2016 16:57:48:
Your family smokes weed?
I sent the following to Adriane on May 11, 2016 16:58:02:
But they'll probably be drinking. Yeah, they do.
Adriane sent the following to me on May 11, 2016 16:59:27:
Oh okay. Is there anything I should bring besides clothes, swim suit, and sunscreen?
I sent the following to Adriane on May 11, 2016 17:00:06:
We'll need to bring some food and stuff, but we can figure it out on Friday.
I sent the following to Adriane on May 11, 2016 17:00:23:
I'm so fucking excited that you'll be coming with me.
I sent the following to Adriane on May 11, 2016 17:00:31:
I can't wait!
I sent the following to Adriane on May 11, 2016 17:00:47:
I love you.
Adriane sent the following to me on May 11, 2016 17:01:05:
Aww, I love you more!! ����
I sent the following to Adriane on May 11, 2016 17:02:32:
Time will tell on that. In the mean time though, I'm going to really enjoy all the time I get with you.
Adriane sent the following to me on May 11, 2016 17:04:15:
Me too, which reminds me that we were supposed to talk on Friday!
Adriane sent the following to me on May 11, 2016 17:04:33:
Did you still want to do that then or wait until Monday?
I sent the following to Adriane on May 11, 2016 17:08:44:
Let's do that after the trip if that's alright. Is that OK?
I sent the following to Adriane on May 11, 2016 17:10:02:
I just really want you to destress a bit before we have what might be an intense conversation.
Adriane sent the following to me on May 11, 2016 17:18:04:
That's okay. I hope the conversation is good.
I sent the following to Adriane on May 11, 2016 17:18:39:
As do I
Adriane sent the following to me on May 11, 2016 17:53:53:
Do you think it's gonna be good?
Adriane sent the following to me on May 11, 2016 18:07:53:
I am not sure I can enjoy a trip with you if I think that when we come back we'll have a talk and then separate.
I sent the following to Adriane on May 11, 2016 18:09:29:
I mean. I'm really committed to finding a way to make it work.
I sent the following to Adriane on May 11, 2016 18:10:36:
If you'd rather talk before the trip, we can, but my guess is that we'll need to process a bit after the conversation and that might be tough on the trip.
Adriane sent the following to me on May 11, 2016 18:12:18:
Okay, we can wait!!
I sent the following to Adriane on May 11, 2016 18:14:44:
I'm just so grateful to have met you. I really want to make it work. And now, I really want to give your a hug.
Adriane sent the following to me on May 11, 2016 18:16:10:
I need hugs and kisses!!
I sent the following to Adriane on May 11, 2016 18:16:36:
I would love to indulge you.
Adriane sent the following to me on May 11, 2016 18:17:20:
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I sent the following to Adriane on May 11, 2016 18:23:46:
Maybe I'll come by for like 15 minutes a bit later. But, I won't stay any longer. We've got a film screening tonight.
Adriane sent the following to me on May 11, 2016 18:32:53:
Okay!! �� Come by anytime!!
Adriane sent the following to me on May 11, 2016 20:11:07:
You said you might come so now I've been waiting for you! I mean, I'm studying but I keep thinking when you will get here!
I sent the following to Adriane on May 11, 2016 20:12:00:
I will. We're finishing up now.
Adriane sent the following to me on May 11, 2016 21:37:37:
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I sent the following to Adriane on May 11, 2016 21:38:01:
Back at you!
Adriane sent the following to me on May 11, 2016 23:52:45:
It's going to be cold this weekend! We might freeze on the water!!
I sent the following to Adriane on May 11, 2016 23:53:26:
We'll figure it out.
I sent the following to Adriane on May 11, 2016 23:53:50:
I won't let you freeze.
Adriane sent the following to me on May 11, 2016 23:54:28:
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I sent the following to Adriane on May 11, 2016 23:58:23:
You'll need to snuggle up extra close with me at night. ��
Adriane sent the following to me on May 12, 2016 10:11:27:
Got done with my Medchem Final! And it went really well!
Adriane sent the following to me on May 12, 2016 10:11:46:
Now I just have kinetics at 1:30 and after that I'm free!!!
I sent the following to Adriane on May 12, 2016 10:15:09:
Yay. I can't wait!
Adriane sent the following to me on May 12, 2016 10:21:24:
Me too!!
Adriane sent the following to me on May 12, 2016 11:45:09:
Things my mom texts me!
I sent the following to Adriane on May 12, 2016 12:00:12:
Fun
Adriane sent the following to me on May 12, 2016 13:05:02:
A rather morbid thought I'm having right before my last final. Do you ever wonder why people go silently to their death?
Adriane sent the following to me on May 12, 2016 13:05:21:
Specially thinking about people who are being executed.
Adriane sent the following to me on May 12, 2016 13:05:27:
Specifically**
I sent the following to Adriane on May 12, 2016 13:05:46:
Haven't thought about that, honestly.
Adriane sent the following to me on May 12, 2016 13:07:31:
I have thought about it a few times. Every time I see something like a hanging, or people lined up to be executed. The people always resolve themselves to their fate. I never see somebody decide to run or kick the executioner, or say something. I just think it's interesting.
Adriane sent the following to me on May 12, 2016 13:09:17:
It might seem to them a better way to die. Maybe they feel they at least know exactly what will happen. Versus if they act out, they might die in a different way and maybe they want some certainty with their deaths.
I sent the following to Adriane on May 12, 2016 13:10:55:
Hm. Interesting. I've only been executed once, and I barely remember it, so it's hard for me to imagine what it feels like.
Adriane sent the following to me on May 12, 2016 13:14:08:
I think people accept it, arrange their thoughts and wishes. Then right before they actually die I think they are terrified.
I sent the following to Adriane on May 12, 2016 13:15:52:
I could see that, but it might depend on the person somewhat.
Adriane sent the following to me on May 12, 2016 13:19:32:
To me it would depend on whether I thought people I love would see my death in person or throw recording. If I thought somebody would see me, I would accept and go peacefully. If I didn't have to worry about that, I would try to attack my executioner. Or at least tell them that they don't have the right to kill me.
Adriane sent the following to me on May 12, 2016 13:19:44:
Through*
I sent the following to Adriane on May 12, 2016 13:20:25:
That makes sense to me.
Adriane sent the following to me on May 12, 2016 13:21:57:
This is how I feel going into my last final. I feel like I should tell that to Dr Salama! lol
I sent the following to Adriane on May 12, 2016 13:22:51:
Oh goodness. This is just a final. Even if you failed it, you have so many other wonderful things/people in your life and so much to give the world.
Adriane sent the following to me on May 12, 2016 13:24:12:
Lol, I'm kidding! I sometimes enjoy melodrama! ��
I sent the following to Adriane on May 12, 2016 13:24:44:
Alright. Well, I'll see you soon!
Adriane sent the following to me on May 13, 2016 13:46:42:
Toilet broke!
Adriane sent the following to me on May 13, 2016 13:47:44:
I wanted to take a shower, but Idk if that will happen since they've been working on my toilet!
Adriane sent the following to me on May 13, 2016 13:48:08:
Will there be a bathroom at our camp site?
I sent the following to Adriane on May 13, 2016 13:48:30:
Dunno
Adriane sent the following to me on May 13, 2016 13:49:58:
I'm just concerned if I need to poop in the woods I won't have anything to wipe my butt! lol
I sent the following to Adriane on May 13, 2016 13:51:20:
Just checked. There is one.
Adriane sent the following to me on May 13, 2016 13:57:15:
Okay cool! ��
Adriane sent the following to me on May 13, 2016 14:18:35:
I have a Costco bag that's meant to keep food cool, and I have a bunch of ice packs. We can use that instead of buying a cooler if you want!
I sent the following to Adriane on May 13, 2016 14:18:58:
Cool
Adriane sent the following to me on May 13, 2016 14:21:33:
Okay so I'm about to hop in the shower! I will text you when I'm on my way to pick you up!
I sent the following to Adriane on May 13, 2016 14:21:53:
K
Adriane sent the following to me on May 13, 2016 15:55:54:
I'm going to leave soon! Do you need a water bottle?
I sent the following to Adriane on May 13, 2016 15:56:58:
Um. Yes.
Adriane sent the following to me on May 13, 2016 15:57:27:
Lol okay! I'll bring two!
Adriane sent the following to me on May 13, 2016 16:04:10:
Do you need sunglasses?
I sent the following to Adriane on May 13, 2016 16:08:43:
Nope
Adriane sent the following to me on May 13, 2016 16:09:19:
Ok, I brought an extra! Omw!
I sent the following to Adriane on May 15, 2016 16:53:06:
Text me when you're home and safe, please.
Adriane sent the following to me on May 15, 2016 17:14:40:
Hey! I'm home
I sent the following to Adriane on May 15, 2016 17:15:35:
Good. I was worried about you getting home. Sorry for being such a worrier.
Adriane sent the following to me on May 15, 2016 17:20:49:
I pooped as soon as I got home. So weird how my body knows where home is and decides that's the place I can poop.
I sent the following to Adriane on May 15, 2016 17:21:17:
You see. I'm literally pooping right now.
Adriane sent the following to me on May 15, 2016 17:21:47:
I looked over my notes.
Adriane sent the following to me on May 15, 2016 17:21:47:
Good job!
Adriane sent the following to me on May 15, 2016 17:31:45:
I'm thinking about the why's of why I am monogamous and want a monogamous relationship, besides what I already brought up. I'm gonna write a little bit and then come over and we can talk more.
I sent the following to Adriane on May 15, 2016 17:32:45:
OK. That sounds stressful, but it's good work.
Adriane sent the following to me on May 15, 2016 17:50:07:
I sent the following to Adriane on May 15, 2016 17:53:33:
Reading that and the other things you wrote has me close to my limit to process. There is a lot to talk about here.
Adriane sent the following to me on May 15, 2016 17:57:47:
I sent the following to Adriane on May 15, 2016 18:00:34:
Read it.
Adriane sent the following to me on May 15, 2016 18:06:08:
Okay do you want me to come over?
I sent the following to Adriane on May 15, 2016 18:06:27:
If you're up for it.
I sent the following to Adriane on May 15, 2016 18:12:25:
What time are you coming over? I'm just dicking around right now.
Adriane sent the following to me on May 15, 2016 18:17:08:
I can come now!
I sent the following to Adriane on May 15, 2016 18:17:17:
Sounds good.
Adriane sent the following to me on May 16, 2016 07:03:56:
It's not business casual! Just have to wear clothes that cover you more than shorts and tank tops!
Adriane sent the following to me on May 16, 2016 08:47:45:
Good morning! I hope you are feeling alright this morning. I had a wonderful time with you and your family this weekend. I appreciate you introducing me to them and spending time with me. I'm glad we had a talk yesterday even though it was difficult and didn't go as smoothly as we would have liked. I know we both have some processing to do and things have been a little bit tumultuous. For that reason, I think it would be good to take a few days off from seeing each other in person so that we can both get a little clarity. Let me know what you think.
I sent the following to Adriane on May 16, 2016 09:42:56:
OK. If that will help you process, I'm down. I'm also glad that we got into that conversation and you came with me to the caves and float trip. Let me know when you'd like to meet up again.
Adriane sent the following to me on May 16, 2016 09:47:32:
Okay, I will need at minimum 2-3 days, possibly a week, but probably not longer than that.
I sent the following to Adriane on May 16, 2016 09:48:04:
That's fine. No rush other than I like seeing you.
Adriane sent the following to me on May 16, 2016 09:54:29:
Okay, thank you. During this time I will look into polyamory to understand you more and better our relationship.
I will also organize my thoughts on what I need in a relationship with you, my current concerns, and I will develop some win-win options for how we can proceed together.
I sent the following to Adriane on May 16, 2016 09:55:01:
That's awesome!
Adriane sent the following to me on May 16, 2016 09:59:55:
Yes. ��
Something that probably would make me more comfortable if we were to continue with you seeing other people and me being monogamous, would be for me to meet the other women that you're seeing. We can cross that when we get to it though. I have a lot of thinking to do to get things figured out!
Adriane sent the following to me on May 16, 2016 10:13:47:
There is one thing before we meet again to talk that I do want to clarify because you have mentioned it a few times. I think you worry for me because I am currently lacking some confidence. You have asked if I think I am good enough for you and mentioned that you want me to know that I deserve a good person. While I know your intent is good, it feels paternal to me. I have confided in you that I'm at a low currently and that if you met me at times in my life where I was not severely depressed you might understand me a little better.
So I want to clarify that I am not settling for you because I think that you're the best I can get. I know there are many great people I could meet and be a couple with. I'm choosing you and putting faith in us because I think the relationship is worth it.
Adriane sent the following to me on May 16, 2016 10:21:54:
I'm perfectly capable of meeting other people that I can connect with, appreciate, and have a loving relationship with. So there's really no need to worry about me not being able to find that.
I sent the following to Adriane on May 16, 2016 10:23:05:
OK. All that sounds good.
Adriane sent the following to me on May 16, 2016 10:40:24:
Great. I think it's important to our relationship that you trust and believe me when I say that I'm choosing you because I want you and not because I think there's no one better for me. In reality, I know there will always be something better, but that's not what I think is important.
I sent the following to Adriane on May 16, 2016 10:43:24:
OK
Adriane sent the following to me on May 16, 2016 10:51:19:
We can talk about that more when we see each other.
Adriane sent the following to me on May 16, 2016 11:02:16:
Also, I'm just going to throw this out there. You often are pointing out things about autism to me. I'm not sure if it's because you're just interested in it or something else. If you are trying to tell me that you think I have autism, you should just tell me that rather than hint at it.
Anyway, that's all I wanted to mention right now. We can wait to have real discussions in person.
I sent the following to Adriane on May 16, 2016 11:03:00:
I don't think you have autism. It is just an important issue to me.
Adriane sent the following to me on May 16, 2016 11:58:24:
A few thoughts:
Polyamory offers a different person for different needs as long as you have enough time for them. I am the main person for you simply because I satisfy more of your needs than others do.
You have a tendency to frame polyamory around wanting what's best for your partner. But that's seems insincere/paternal since it's not the case at all for me. That's not what I like or want. Instead let's talk about why it's best for you because that's important and it's why you're in it. I think a big part of it is a fear of increased commitment and vulnerability that comes with a serious monogamous relationship.
To be polyamorous with you we would need to have a conversation with the other women so we can all understand our places in your life and who fits where, and why you want to see all of us. This would avoid confusion and conflict with the different people you're in relationships with.
I sent the following to Adriane on May 16, 2016 12:05:36:
Lots of stuff there. I'm happy to talk about why polyamory is good for me, but I don't think it is a fear of commitment or fear of having a deep relationship. I'm all for having a conversation with all my partners and I really appreciate that suggestion. It is generally something that I push for anyway, and I believe it to be important.
Adriane sent the following to me on May 16, 2016 12:16:00:
Okay, that makes sense. If we have a conversation with your partners I will get to express myself and tell them that I'm unhappy that you are in polyamorous relationships and that I would like to be in a monogamous relationship with you.
Adriane sent the following to me on May 16, 2016 12:17:22:
I encourage you to tell your partners that if I don't get the chance to talk to them as well.
I sent the following to Adriane on May 16, 2016 12:17:52:
I have, but yeah.
Adriane sent the following to me on May 16, 2016 12:18:23:
Good, I'm glad everybody knows.
Adriane sent the following to me on May 16, 2016 12:27:30:
If it is preferential that you see them, then that's perfectly fine and we can still be in each other's lives in other ways that are not romantic. It seems like that's the case since you've already talked about me to the other people and I only am learning about them now. It feels like they have closer bonds with you and what we have is superficial. You should keep seeing them since they're very important to you. That way you get to sleep with other people, have a friendship with me, and I am not trapped in something unhealthy.
I sent the following to Adriane on May 16, 2016 12:29:08:
I talked to them and not you because you asked me not to, or that is how I understood what you said. People can be close in different ways.
Adriane sent the following to me on May 16, 2016 12:29:27:
Well, I was wrong.
Adriane sent the following to me on May 16, 2016 12:30:38:
So glad everybody knows about me and I know absolutely nothing.
Adriane sent the following to me on May 16, 2016 12:31:44:
Anyway, I don't want to know about them and I don't care who they are.
I sent the following to Adriane on May 16, 2016 12:31:45:
It's not like I didn't want to talk about other people with you.
I sent the following to Adriane on May 16, 2016 12:32:32:
I'm confused.
Adriane sent the following to me on May 16, 2016 12:33:15:
Basically, I made a mistake by ignoring that you were seeing other people. Now I got burned.
Adriane sent the following to me on May 16, 2016 12:35:06:
Upon realizing it and that these are all real people who you talk to about me, I feel like my world is turned upside down. And I hate it. I hate that I lied to myself. I hate that they know about me. I hate all of it and I wish I was not a part of it.
Adriane sent the following to me on May 16, 2016 12:36:26:
At first I thought there was only Jamie because that's who you mentioned, but then there is also Ester and Sheila.
Adriane sent the following to me on May 16, 2016 12:38:33:
And you told me Jamie was a rare occasion so it's easy to ignore. Anyway, I don't think you're a bad person. I wish you the best in your life. I would like a resolution but I'm not sure if there's a healthy one for both of us. I'll think about it.
Adriane sent the following to me on May 16, 2016 12:39:24:
But I'm really sore from this. Ignoring from the beginning was a terrible idea.
Adriane sent the following to me on May 16, 2016 12:40:30:
I went from feeling like we had something close and special to feeling like a complete outsider in your life.
I sent the following to Adriane on May 16, 2016 12:41:06:
You're not an outsider to me.
Adriane sent the following to me on May 16, 2016 12:41:20:
Yes I am.
I sent the following to Adriane on May 16, 2016 12:41:51:
We've known each other for under two months and you meet my family. There are lots of parts to who I am.
I sent the following to Adriane on May 16, 2016 12:42:09:
I don't want to hold anything back.
I sent the following to Adriane on May 16, 2016 12:44:13:
Believe me, it is as hurtful to me as to you to have not felt able to talk with you about this stuff earlier.
Adriane sent the following to me on May 16, 2016 12:51:03:
Which parts are accessible to me and which are reserved for other people? Honestly I can share a lot of things, but I cannot share a life companion and I don't want to. If you want a chance to grow with me it will have to with just us. Yes, it is a risk. And you don't have to take it. You can play it safe with poly relationships that are less demanding. That might be the right thing for you. I am definitely willing to be your friend, but I don't owe you a romantic relationship especially on terms that are hurtful to my spiritual/emotional well being. If you think that's selfish of me then I'm sorry you feel that way. After realizing how hurtful it is to lie to myself, I'm choosing honesty.
I sent the following to Adriane on May 16, 2016 12:58:11:
I feel that we both moved really quickly and ignored this issue. I'm committed to really working out a solution, but I don't think one is going to come instantly. I don't want you to unhappy and I'm glad that you are willing to advocate for yourself. You are right that you don't owe me a romantic relationship. I want to share everything that I can with you. I'm open to being in a monogamous relationship with you. I'm not trying to play it safe. I want some time to think about this, but please know that my lifestyle isn't about having casual relationships. I don't want a casual relationship with you.
I sent the following to Adriane on May 16, 2016 13:00:25:
I just don't think that monogamy is a silver bullet and there are issues related to this that are as important to me. When you continue to say that I want to pay is safe or imply that my philosophy is about being casual, that is very hurtful and doesn't make me feel safe.
I sent the following to Adriane on May 16, 2016 13:02:39:
I'm most concerned with how we work out a solution. I need to feel that we can respect each other the way that we each are and work from that. To me, that's love and intimicy and way more important than whether we are monogamous or not.
I sent the following to Adriane on May 16, 2016 13:05:48:
Which is why I'm more than willing to not date other people, but I'm not willing to compromise on you respecting my philosophy and how I experience love.
Adriane sent the following to me on May 16, 2016 16:36:10:
Okay I understand that and we can talk about all of that.
Adriane sent the following to me on May 16, 2016 20:44:21:
I think I left my phone charger at your place
I sent the following to Adriane on May 16, 2016 21:59:55:
Hm. Yes and a sweatshirt.
Adriane sent the following to me on May 17, 2016 08:22:04:
If my phone dies, I don't have a way to reach you to ask when I can pick up my charger!
Adriane sent the following to me on May 17, 2016 08:22:39:
Adriane sent the following to me on May 17, 2016 08:23:34:
I don't have an additional charger besides the one in my car that doesn't work
Adriane sent the following to me on May 17, 2016 08:28:09:
I sent the following to Adriane on May 17, 2016 09:45:36:
Mine is just my last name at Gmail. So,
[email protected] I hope that your day goes well. I'll probably be downtown today if you want to arrange to get it.
Adriane sent the following to me on May 17, 2016 10:07:48:
I didn't bring my laptop and my phone is at 1%, so I won't be able to arrange it. I'll probably have lunch at noon, but it depends. I'm at jury duty again!
Adriane sent the following to me on May 17, 2016 10:07:49:
I didn't bring my laptop and my phone is at 1%, so I won't be able to arrange it. I'll probably have lunch at noon, but it depends. I'm at jury duty again!
Adriane sent the following to me on May 17, 2016 10:09:04:
I hope your day goes well too! I wish I could meet with you, but I probably won't be able to tell you when I'm free for lunch!
I sent the following to Adriane on May 17, 2016 10:09:23:
OK. Sorry that I didn't give it to you last night. I hope that jury duty is fun. I'll try to get the charger to you as soon as possible.
Adriane sent the following to me on May 17, 2016 10:09:48:
I'll probably get off of duty around 5:15 if it's like yesterday
I sent the following to Adriane on May 17, 2016 10:10:08:
K
Adriane sent the following to me on May 17, 2016 10:10:17:
It's okay, I know you had plans last night and I'm perfectly capable of driving to you to pick it up
Adriane sent the following to me on May 17, 2016 20:34:56:
I'm currently developing paper on topics pertaining to our relationship that I want to use as a tool to help bring clarity and direction to our discussions.
With my current isolation and depression, my ability to focus and even speak is pretty weak. At times I have even gone almost completely mute from it. Writing really helps me get some clarity.
The main sections I have are:
-Answers to Nick's Questions Concerns (In which I have many items that you have brought to my attention)
-Questions for Nick
-Questions I asked Myself
Within those I have many subsections.
I would like to discuss these items thoroughly before we think about ways to move forward.
I sent the following to Adriane on May 17, 2016 20:40:53:
I'm so appreciative that you're taking this seriously. It means a lot.
Adriane sent the following to me on May 17, 2016 20:45:08:
Thanks. I have a thorough and detailed outline going, so I think when I'm done with it it will be a very useful tool for discussion.
Adriane sent the following to me on May 17, 2016 20:48:51:
You're welcome to make one as well if you like. That way we can go back and forth, first discussing answers to previously mentioned concerns, then questions that we have for each other, and finally sharing our self-reflections.
I think that should be enough for the next discussion. Then we can take time to process and the next discussion we can answer any unresolved issues and possibly work on a way to move forward.
Adriane sent the following to me on May 17, 2016 20:51:03:
I can send you my outline so you have an idea of what I'm bringing.
I sent the following to Adriane on May 17, 2016 20:52:55:
Yeah. Also, if you have an idea when you will be ready to sit down and talk, let me know.
Adriane sent the following to me on May 17, 2016 21:00:53:
Okay I'm sending you my outline minus any answers that I had written!
Adriane sent the following to me on May 17, 2016 21:00:57:
I sent it!
Adriane sent the following to me on May 17, 2016 21:01:20:
I have jury duty again tomorrow, but hopefully it will be over by tomorrow!
Adriane sent the following to me on May 17, 2016 21:02:32:
I may be ready by Friday!
I sent the following to Adriane on May 17, 2016 21:02:33:
Thanks for sending it. I got it and it has lots of good topics in it. I'll think of there is anything else.
Adriane sent the following to me on May 17, 2016 21:21:27:
No problem. âºï¸
Adriane sent the following to me on May 17, 2016 21:28:09:
When you make your outline, please send it to me too so I have an idea of what you're thinking about
I sent the following to Adriane on May 17, 2016 21:28:29:
OK.
I sent the following to Adriane on May 17, 2016 22:50:09:
I hope that you're doing alright. I'm not sure why, but I just have this really strong feeling that you're in lots of pain. Don't forget: I do love you. I don't mean to not respect your space, but I'm here if you need me. I mean it!
Adriane sent the following to me on May 17, 2016 23:07:15:
Thank you. I'm okay. I wanted to hug you before I left, but I had the impression that you didn't want that. I also thought maybe you had somebody over. It does hurt me to know that you are in other romantic relationships, but that's kind of why we're having these discussions.
I love you too and I hope that you are feeling okay. I'm also here for you if you need me.
I sent the following to Adriane on May 18, 2016 01:25:08:
I was scared to give you a hug. I didn't have anyone over though.
Adriane sent the following to me on May 18, 2016 08:44:46:
Same here. I didn't want to make you uncomfortable.
Adriane sent the following to me on May 18, 2016 08:45:35:
I'm about to start jury duty again! I hope you have a great day!
I sent the following to Adriane on May 18, 2016 08:46:22:
You too.
Adriane sent the following to me on May 18, 2016 13:11:35:
I just saw your snap crying. That is really sad. I think it does make sense to choose death rather than live a tormented life in pain.
I think the fact that women having sex is taboo plays a part in the idea that rape is worse than other physical crimes. In Middle Eastern cultures where honor is important and a woman's worth is based on "purity" rape is worse than other physical crimes and leads to women killing themselves. If we could reduce the stigma of sex I think it would be beneficial for people who have survived rape. Obviously sex and rape are completely different things but I think the stigma of sex makes it harder for rape victims, if that makes sense. We also need to clarify to people the difference between the two because I don't think everybody understands it, unfortunately.
I sent the following to Adriane on May 18, 2016 13:17:20:
Yeah. Well, she was raped by family from 5 until 15. I totally agree with what you're saying about women's value being in purity, and purity being about their usage for sex. I would argue that women as property is the root of that and of marriage and monogomy, which is a big part of my objection to both. Anyway, I'd be interested to hear more about what you're saying some time. There is obviously much more you have to say about this and I love it when you share your thoughts with me ��
Adriane sent the following to me on May 18, 2016 13:43:29:
Wow, that's so terrible. It might sound sick, but I'm actually glad that she had euthanasia as an option. Of course ideally I wish that she could recover and live a fulfilling life, but the burden of recovering is not something I feel comfortable asking of people. And sometimes you just can't. In such cases and in cases of terminal illness, I think people should be able to choose when to say goodbye.
I sent the following to Adriane on May 18, 2016 13:44:30:
I completely agree. The right to die is such an important right. I'm glad that you agree.
Adriane sent the following to me on May 18, 2016 13:46:18:
My jury duty is over.
I sent the following to Adriane on May 18, 2016 13:47:00:
I'm downtown right now at my office.
Adriane sent the following to me on May 18, 2016 13:47:17:
I'm at the Kiel parking garage
Adriane sent the following to me on May 18, 2016 13:47:36:
Next to scottrade
I sent the following to Adriane on May 18, 2016 13:48:18:
Well, come by if you want a hug. Otherwise, I look forward to seeing you soon.
Adriane sent the following to me on May 18, 2016 13:52:08:
I do want one but I'm a little upset about the case. I look forward to giving you a hug when I see you likely on Friday!
I sent the following to Adriane on May 18, 2016 13:53:36:
Oh, OK. No hug for you or me then. �� You don't have to worry about being upset around me though. I still have dried tears on my face.
Adriane sent the following to me on May 18, 2016 14:00:21:
Did you need a hug?
Adriane sent the following to me on May 18, 2016 14:00:38:
I can come back and give you one!
I sent the following to Adriane on May 18, 2016 14:00:58:
I don't need one. You don't have to. I just really wanted one is all.
Adriane sent the following to me on May 18, 2016 14:02:03:
I didn't realize that you were asking for one or I would have stopped by!
I sent the following to Adriane on May 18, 2016 14:02:48:
No worries. I also thought it'd be fun for you to see where I work.
Adriane sent the following to me on May 18, 2016 14:03:30:
Okay, so I'll come by then. I don't look great, but thankfully you like the disheveled look that comes naturally to me!
I sent the following to Adriane on May 18, 2016 14:03:57:
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Adriane sent the following to me on May 18, 2016 14:06:04:
I googled it and the address isn't showing up!
I sent the following to Adriane on May 18, 2016 14:06:20:
1221 Washington Ave.
Adriane sent the following to me on May 18, 2016 14:12:13:
Omw!
I sent the following to Adriane on May 18, 2016 14:12:23:
K
Adriane sent the following to me on May 18, 2016 14:32:34:
I'm walking over!
Adriane sent the following to me on May 18, 2016 15:11:55:
I did a really terrible thing and I don't know if you can still date me after hearing it, but I'm going to tell you.
During voir dire, I told the prosecuting attorney that I think possession of illegal drugs should be decriminalized, but they still chose me. I thought maybe it was okay that they chose me and now I can help this woman by convincing the jurors she's not guilty. However the prosecutor did a great job and the defense attorney was terrible. We started out 9 guilty 3 not guilty. Eventually it came down to me as the last person arguing for reasonable doubt against 11 jurors who thought she was guilty. When it became evident that there's no way anyone could believe she's not guilty with regards to the law I tried to convince the jurors that we could use jury nullification. That did not work. At this point I should have stuck with my not guilty verdict, but I didn't. I switched to guilty. And because of me this girl is probably going to jail now. I could have made a difference by sticking with not guilty, and I didn't do it. Now I obviously feel like shit, but it's too late. I was scared to tell you because this is something you obviously would care about, but I can't keep it to myself.
Adriane sent the following to me on May 18, 2016 15:13:21:
I don't want you to make me feel better. I know I did a terrible thing. I just wanted to be honest with you and let you know what I did.
I sent the following to Adriane on May 18, 2016 15:15:08:
I'm very glad that you shared. And I'm very glad that you cared. I'm not your judge. I'm here to love you. On that I won't budge. And that's just true.
I sent the following to Adriane on May 18, 2016 15:16:58:
We all fuck up. So, get up, be better, and remember when those around you fuck up. I still love you.
I sent the following to Adriane on May 18, 2016 15:24:50:
And, if you want to get dinner and talk about it, I'm happy to do that. I won't judge you. I have plans later, but I could get dinner.
Adriane sent the following to me on May 18, 2016 15:32:53:
Thanks for that offer. I appreciate your love/advice. I don't feel good getting dinner when this girl is probably going to jail because I failed to do the right thing.
I sent the following to Adriane on May 18, 2016 15:34:52:
Fair enough. It sounds like you're looking for penance. Remember that there are lots of us that love you. Find a way to make it right, but be good to yourself.